I have been wanting one for years now and always seem to miss the boat as they sell out quickly. Also, at higher velocities, the bullet is able to realize a flatter trajectory meaning longer shots are possible. Sounds like Remington/Marlin customer service and repair has gone straight to hell. Remington manufactured this impressive cartridge, and still produces new brass for handloaders on occasion. The Henry Big Boy Steel in .357 is about $700. There is an issue in how the hammer and bolt are aligned. by AJMD429 Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:17 pm, Post Don't like it you can turn it quick and easy. Guns can be fun. Hornady XTP 158 gr. Caliber: .357 MAG/ .38 Special Capacity: 10+1 Barrel Length: 18 Barrel Type: Octagon Blued Steel Rate of Twist: 1:16 Overall Length: 35.5 Receiver Material: CaseHardened Steel Rear Sight: Buckhorn Front Sight: Blade Stock Material: Walnut Weight: 7.4 lbs. After the hunts are over is the best time to send barrels in for customizing! @ Ed Palumbo. .357 Remington Maximum is one potent game harvesting machine with more energy potential than factory .30/30 Winchester and .35 Remington, roughly equal to factory .300 Savage, and not far behind .308 Winchester energy levels, but with much less powder, less muzzle blast, and less recoil! This load generates very close to the SAAMI max of 35k psi. Chiefs Special, 6 Python and Henry in 357. I sold both rather quickly. I love Lever action rifles, and own Rossis, Savage 99s, Winchesters , ( 92 and 94s), Marlins, and Henrys, in 357 magnum and 44 Rem Mag. I cant go the range without people coming over to try it out. L ess than 50 rounds fired through the barrel. by bgmkithaca Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:36 am, Post Give me a blued steel finish with walnut, no plastics or laminates please!!! Its just not special enough to me for my wallet to cough up the bucks. The fact is, .357 lever action rifles are proven game-getters, as they are well-suited to whitetail and hog hunting in thick timber at close(r) range, inside about 150 yards. Our public range requires that spent brass be picked up. Henry offers their stunningly beautiful rifles, all American-made, for substantially less than a Marlin price tag. Sellier, who established the company in Prague in 1825 and began manufacturing percussion caps for use in muskets and rifles. . Relevant to what? Not everything has to be tactically sound. A friend has suggested my neophyte inquiry might find assistance here: C2N14 because life is not energetic enough. MAXIMUM RIFLE | 325 | 122 | Lc | 125.0022ms, HARRINGTON & RICHARDSON 158 .357 MAXIMUM RIFLE. I chose not to raid the checking account for a c-note more and have been kicking myself since. The 357 Max is generally considered to be less powerful that 35 Rem, but I don't know if you would see a difference in a 14" barrel. It downloads well, unlike H110/296. Trust me. Shop online for discount .357 Remington Max ammunition from top ammo brands like Remington, Federal, Winchester, Hornady, CCI, Speer, and many more. In this policy, they created a market for a more powerful revolver. We were amazed at the penetration. If you hand-load long bullets that seat deeply in the case, you may need a longer expander plug to avoid crumpling the case. Larger game such as elk or black bear warrant a more substantial cartridge and hunting game on the open plains of the West requires more power and a flatter trajectory. Got a lot of positive comments on it. Pistol caliber lever action rifles do make sense for benighted states, and are also still a lot of fun for the rest of us as well. Springfield Armory SA-35 Pistol: Rebirth of the Browning P-35 Hi-Power. Bagged in plastic, clean, and well oiled. The "little but mighty" .357 " Maxie" ! It was simply the .357 case lengthened to 1.60 and used the heavier bullets of 158 grains to as much as 200 grains. Looks like AA 1680 is the top powder choice. Many people download it and get unburnt . As far as commiespretty sure it would get the job done. Its a copy of the Winchester 1892 made by Miroku for Browning. My main load was Winchester 357 Silvertips. Max. The evidently know a 22 rifle or shotgun by sight. I prefer flatnose or roundnose designs in this velocity range because they typically demonstrate better expansion than Spitzers at the same velocity. Most 350 Legend bullets have a higher sectional density which means more penetration than the .357 Magnum. Free shipping for many products! Apparently it was a regular thing. . Here is a link to an article that may answer some questions. I passed up a .357 94 trapper several years ago it was a few $ more than I had on me and I couldnt get the seller to budge. The revolvers that were built in this caliber are rare, and consistently go for a premium over other Ruger Blackhawks. Since that time, many believe that the issues stem from using light-loads consisting of 110 and 125 grain (gr.) I believe Ive had more fun with my .357 Maximum barrel than any other in my T/C stable with the possible exception of the .22 Hornet barrel. It appears to be a rimless 357 Maximum. If you use 158-grain bullets on game, I highly recommend softpoints over hollowpoints. It could even work for breech-seating. No one else offers the wide range of options, steel picatinny rails, and barrel fluting that MGM does. Turns out that my relatively new Ford pickup has plenty of room for a lever gun too. Clearly, these articles (and other ones like this article) hit a receptive ear/eye in the gun buying public and they say Imma get me sumodat! and poof! GunBroker.com Forums. The "U.S. Rifle, Caliber .30, Model of 1903," better-known as the M1903 Springfield, has become one of the most popular U.S. military small arms to collect. I think its partly because leverguns are unusual in a sea of sameness, and also because theyve still got a bit of that badass Old West cachet. Do the same during Deer Season, and all the critters have suddenly developed a deep phobia of open meadows you can see from far off. Finally needed cash and sold it to a collector of old west guns. Slower burning powders will enjoy a longer barrel more than faster burning powders. 357 max has one of the best resale records out there. by AJMD429 Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:57 pm, Post Admittingly I was single then but it was relaxing! Some additional info on Fury Bullets, Detroit, MI. The 350 Legend is faster, more powerful, and can be used in more guns than the .357 Magnum. The one that went directly back to gun store was likely 2018 or 2019 but was still new in box. someguy2800, Jul 12, 2019 #7 Eagle 17 and Bfh_auto like this. The action and trigger needed work, so that cost another $125 from my local Gunsmith in Oregon. It is my go-to gun for self-defense at home and in my car. The conversion was not troublesome at all other than a rebarrel and chamber job , it feeds with no modifications whatever needed. Metallic silhouette shooters found it both accurate and very good at taking steel plates off a rail. And if even a Henry is a little rich for your blood, Rossi makes perfectly serviceable pistol-caliber levers that retail in the mid-$500s. 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 6.5 PRC: Which is Better? A .357 bang stick would certainly be cheaper to keep fed for silhouette shooting vs my Henry in 45 Colt. I know its not the answer you want, but it gets you to the same place. We call all major brands, calibers, and gauges of ammunition for your firearms. Nosler, the world's finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, & brass. We discuss most anything here politely. Try it you won't regret it. Caveat Emptor. Thanks Muddy, 2506, hunter67, shooter7. It is such a joy to shoot! It came back looking like new. .357 caliber bullets (from left to right) 158 gr XTP, 180 gr XTP, 200 gr FTX, New 357 Rem Max casing. FILE PHOTO Check out our website and use our Facebook li Taylor's & Co 1892 Alaskan Black Takedown 16 inch .357Mag Lever Action. The werent lever actions. Citadel Levtac-92 .357 Magnum Tactical-Lever! MGM's .357 Maximum chamber has an excellent .358" diameter cylindrical throat, stepped down to .357" far, far superior to factory forcing cone chambers, and very similar to my throating. If theyll go ahead and put the new loading gate on it (which I expect they will before long) I think Id probably move it straight to the top of the list. Another Marlin not to miss is the Model 1894 CST, which features a black pistol grip stock and stainless finish. Yeah both pretty awesome. Take a lever action over an AR every day. But that being said, your S&W 8 shot Revolver is a nice pistol. Or crushed and fermented into a crisp, dry Cider. I do like the other pistols but somehow I always end up back at one of those two. Goes to show I learn something new every day. "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" The Apostle Paul in Romans 1:22 . Buy .357 Maximum SuperMag 180g Hornady XTP HP 1800 FPS 20 rounds: GunBroker is the largest seller of Pistol Ammunition Ammunition All: 972984640. . In May I went to Utah and took my brother, his son, and a handful of their friends out shooting. I had owned two previously and traded them off as they were great with jacketed bullets but not lead (microgroove). I dont live in big bear country. Nostalgia isnt relevance. I just read how lever actions were among the first guns carried on single point slings. . twist: 1:18.75"; trim length: 1.285"; primer: Winchester SPM; bullet diam. Two million signatures needed by Nov 17 to qualify for a 2021 Special Election. And, re getting it looked at, yes; thing is, there arent too many smiths in my area who are comfortable working on lever-actions (and the ones that are, I dont trust). They seem to have gotten a lot better in the last 5 years ago or so. Mine was made in about 2005, for what its worth. But they do fit nicely behind a seat. My lever lust may remain unquenched. I really cant eithersure was glad I had 8 30 round mags full of 62 gr 556 as BLM looters were approaching in May. My current 357 carbine is a Marlin 94 from 1998. Max., Those who own firearms in this chambering load their own custom ammunition. As they are harder to find, I switched to PPU 158 JHP with little change for sighting in. They also make a valid home defense rifle AND a great truck gun, to keep the Karens and Kens from whining ASSAULT RIFLE. Max. Like Chris, Doc, and Tycer said - you've already got the 35 Remington - which is, I believe the question was "does anyone make a Levergun for the 357 Maximum". I watched him shoot an elk at about 70 yards once behind the shoulder and one through and had complete penetration on both, elk went 20 yards. It is the perfect .357 Max rifle bullet. With straight-walled cartridges, you dont need a dedicated space. The rifle shot better after reaming that it did before. Maximum, call Kurt Bellm at 970 433 9525. Primos Jelly Head Choke Tube Maximum Supertight Remington 20 Ga. Primos Jelly Head Choke Tube Maximum Supertight Remington 12 Ga. Primos Jelly Head Choke Tube Maximum Benelli-beretta 12 Ga. Uberti 1873 Cattleman NM Steel 7 1/2" .357 Mag with Retractable firing pin (356550), Taylor's & Co 1892 Alaskan Black Takedown 16" Lever Action 357 Mag - NIB, 200 Round Case Underwood Ammunition .38 Special 100gr. Curious that this article features only the most expensive versions of .357 carbines. .357 Remington Maximum beats many of the traditional factory loaded "deer cartridges" such as .30/30 Winchester and .35 Remington. Over time, Sellier & Bellot expanded its product line to include rifle cartridges and smokeless powder. The sights are just like the CSBL are an XS Sights ghost ring sight set. Thanks for your replies. It might not be a good reason but thats not what was asked. Did you go with the .375 Supermag rather than the .375 Winchester due to case length restrictions? And one 1886 Winchester 45-70 takedown model, ( rare). As long as components are available, I can handload for it. The Model X in .357 magnum is super compact with an overall length of just 36.3 inches. has the energy and accuracy needed for 200 meter silhouette shooting. The .450 is like a 45-70 magnum. At least try it with used reloading equipment, one or or two sets of dies. Available with matte finish on steel frames and a highly polished finish on hardened brass frames, these elegantly simple rifles feature 22" round barrels, fully adjustable folding leaf rear sight and brass bead front sights we use on the lever actions, a drilled and tapped provision for optional scope use, walnut front and rear furniture, a Not quite as fast but a staple item is 296/110 with 23 gr. Firearms returned for any reason other than damage or undisclosed conditions will be subject to a 10% restocking fee. Guys that do this are, shall we saypreoccupied with velocity, which is usually the product of light bullets and fast-burning powder.I believe that a failure to appreciate the complexities of this cartridge, the bullets available for it and the proper propellants applicable were a major reason why it passed early. Blame it on the Covid 19 pandemic. A 20 1892 weighs just over 6 lbs loaded. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. im drawn to modern firearms for their dynamicism. its a different kind of shooting, fast followups, peppering paper or spinners, quick reloads. Geoff: Nope, not yet. Turned out to be a skunk right underneath my stand. About the only .357 or .38 spl ammo available now is the pricey 30-bucks-for-a-box-of-20 defensive loads. has the energy and accuracy needed for 200 meter silhouette shooting. Cold hammer-forged barrel results in ultra-precise rifling that provides exceptional accuracy and longevity. Walther's new Performance Duty Pistol is ready for both concealed carry and conventional service situations. Comments like yours on why dont you just reload are what limits some of my shooting time on the metallic silhouette range as its full of old vietnam era (and older) shooters that whine more than a Karen in the wild if you dont pick up your brass with intent to reload. Surprised no one has mentioned Smith and Wesson 627 Performance Center 8 shot in 357. And as far as lever action rifles in pistol calibersthey have never been irrelevant over their 150 year history. Fortunately I do have lever guns in .22, .44 and 30-30 so Im not that upset. Not question those who do or did so, cause theres something special about shooting a lever action. Larger game such as elk or black bear warrant a more substantial cartridge and hunting game on the open plains of the West requires more power and a flatter trajectory. Such a great gun I wish theyd never discontinued them. It list 357 Max data for Jacketed and Cast bullets from all the major players. by Hobie Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:35 am, Post Nobody shoots the .357 Max because no manufacturer chambers their firearms for it these days!" Shipping to your FFL by insured FedEx Ground will be $45. Expecting it back today via UPS, cant wait to put some rounds in it this week. Jan 23, 2014. The .357 magnum has never been irrelevant since it made its debut 80 + years ago. And yes the price has been driven up on them, in the used market in the last 10, 15 years or so, especially the ones with no factory additional safetys, other than the half cock position of the hammers, such as the older Winchester and Marlin 94s. Classified Ad (1000+), Search Full Text of Listings So when they become available, people on this blog will be talking about them. Im not particularly recoil sensitive (though getting old does suck) but from a power-to-controllability ratio standpoint, Ive always found the .357 to be the sweet spot. With higher-performance loads, the .357 carbine almost delivers real rifle ballistics. Browning should build a plant in Utah and make them there, as they own the rights to Winchester now. Great for when wearing gloves. by Chris83716 Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:35 pm, Post Through my industry connections, I heard plenty of finger-pointing about metallurgy and propellant choices, but the ultimate outcome was that the revolver market for this cartridge simply dried up. Its blue with a 16.5 inch barrel. I really want to get one in .357 mag. My Marlin feeds .38 Special just fine but has a tendency to hang up on .357 Mag rounds (no matter the bullet type, it seems to be an OAL issue.). Last one I owned was an 1889 Marlin in .44-40. Considering that there are no problems with this cartridge in single-shot pistols and rifles, it is unfortunate that the revolver problems sullied the reputation of an otherwise fine cartridge. So its a one-two-three punch. Remington introduced the .357 Maximum cartridge in 1983 to considerable fanfare from the shooting press. Why Marlin didnt make a 336 in .357 I will never understand. So without further adiou "Welcome". Pun intended. This permits me to throat the MAGnum barrel with a proper minimum diameter cylindrical throat that: Given a long minimum diameter throat, a MAGnum gives better accuracy with standard MAG ammo for those wanting to shoot .357 MAGnum and .38 Special loads while also being able to essentially duplicating .350 Legend factory loadings. Customer experience was, and still is, the primary focus, a key to the firms longevity and success. The large loop makes solid sense for colder climates like the plains states and Alaska. Had a lousy day in the deer blind once, in my youth. Unfortunately it caught the Remlin disease and had to be sent to the ship for some warranty work. Ha. The AR-15s in .223 are just glorified rabbit guns in my opinion. by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:25 pm, Post It's my personal opinion that the flame cutting on the revolvers chambered in this cartridge gave it a bad rep. Risking twice that? As a recap on hand loads, I would suggest that anyone wishing to hunt with the .357 rifle should . It has always had a good trigger but now it has one of those Ive fired it about 50,000 times trigger jobs and is as smooth and sweet as any trigger Ive owned. I would absolutely use it for home D without a second thought. Read today's "The Armed Citizen" entry for real stories of law-abiding citizens, past and present, who used their firearms to save lives. Khalil, Ive got one in .327 Fed Mag and Im here to tell you IT IS SWEET!! Hard to beat real world experience which is mainly what this site consists of. Looks like they replaced my hammer with a used part and there is some marks on the front sight hood that werent there before. From reloading to bullet selection, reloading powder choice and factory ammunit. So it partly the pandemic, and partly the Presidential election, and then the riots in major cities across the USA. The chrony doesnt lie: .357 levers punch well above their weight: Included with the barrel is a stainless steel MGM scope base and stainless steel Burris Z Rings. I would think it would beat the .357 Maximum, honestly. 30-30 is always a good option. The .357 Magnum cartridge is based upon Smith & Wesson's earlier .38 Special cartridge. Long throated .357 MAGnum barrels let you create space in the MAGnum case for the same powder charge rates used in factory .350 Legend ammo, 21 to 23 gr.! I think my Henry BB 45 Colt is my fav. Most reloading die manufacturers can supply this accessory for your current dies set. Proof-fired it and it stood up. bullets and 1800 (+) fps from 10" barrels at the short end of barrel lengths. While the cartridge produces around 1200 ft/lbs of energy, which is more than a .44 Magnum, it also has less recoil. Yeah, that .357 lever gun is so irrelevant you cant find one anywhere. Which chamber to choose? 357 Remington Maximum Load Data Rechamber to .350 Legend from .357 Magnum or .357 Maximum: Add $25 to mill/convert the extractor for the rebated rimless .350 Legendcase rim. Own Stock. bullets that allow for velocities Ruger never intended. Reloading is a good alternative if you can get the supplies, but from what I read things like primers are becoming harder to find as well. That it would also make a good field cartridge for hunting small and medium game is obvious. In addition to the rapid erosion of the barrel face adjacent to the cylinder, the topstrap was being grooved by a combination of hot gas and partially burned propellant granules. This is my wifes go-to rifle for defense. 008-E503829 | MTM. With 125 gr. I like the combo. They usually hide it by using a 24" barreled rifle. lets say it was well used and not maintained. The Big Boy Steel Carbine is competing for the top of my wish list I really like the color case hardened version. MGM's chamber is perfect for the vast majority of hunters and target shooters! There were two major complaints with the Max, both having to do with powder gas erosion. 38 special. It lacks a top-mounted rail (you can still install one, the receiver is pre-tapped). Please try a new zip code and search again. I agree. Its not as slick as the old 19, but it will do the job.
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