Grip: SuperStroke, Driver: Titleist 917 D3 (10.5 degrees @12) President & CEO, Boys & Girls Clubs of Kentuckiana, Brent Paladino My average club separation is about 15 yards. He defeated Will Zalatoris in a 3-hole playoff to clinch the title for the second time. When we compare these stock yardages for irons between the pros we get a consistent view of yardage which we can accurately compare across the players. It's good for some laughs. By comparison a 5-wood carries 235 yards and hit a 3 hybrid, which measures from 19 to 21, an average carry distance of 230 yards. When it comes to looking at how far the pros hit their wedges the stock yardage they hit each club is again obviously only one of the multiple yardages they can hit the most versatile clubs in any players golf bag. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] I ultimately decided on the Tour AD DI 6X as a better choice. [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] I would guess those numbers are pretty much all-out, perfect contact, carry distances. I feel pretty confidant in saying that those aren't his stoc We've enjoyed playing this great game with friends, family and competitors from all over the world for many years. I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. Vokeys are no doubt aspirational golf clubs, you are viewed as a knowledgeable and better golfer if you have these in the bag. But if you can hit it 275 on your home muni track, that is at least 290 on a tour track with manicured fairways and perfect level tee boxes to hit from. Ball Speed- 176.38 average, 179.45 high Justins interest in the military was inspired by some of the men and women in uniform he has met over the years. On average, all of the projected distances were 50-70 yards further without the slice. Carry Distance 302.9 Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. Another added complication when it comes to comparing the distances that the pros hit their wedges is the differing lofts each of them often carries for seemingly the same club. WebCongratulations to Justin Thomas ! Shafts: KBS Tour 125 S+, Wedges: TaylorMade Milled Grind 3 (50-09SB, 54-11SB, 60-08LB) a lower loft) or a touch weaker (i.e. WebBut he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll. Especially when they was no other golfers in sight. The previous table looked at the approach distance the AMA will have based on hole length and average drive distance. Check out the actual averages from the PGA Tour for the entire year: Now this is not to say that a tour player cant ramp it up another gear if they felt like showing off. I blame it on TV coverage. There isnt anybody who wouldnt like to be able to hit the ball further. My average driving distance is 240 but IF I can make a shot in the sweet spot (Stars Aligned after a long Prayer) I can go 290 to 300 measured on the golf course. Instead, its mostly situational. Not As Much As You Think! I think it would be awesome to see if any of the numbers change due to the new developments. However don't be overwhelmed, the good news is that there is only one set up choice in the PW, two in the GW and multiple in SW and LW due to the wider range of shorter shots you play with these clubs. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Average club speed was 105-112, average ball speed was 139-152, and average rpm was between 4400-5100. Club Head Speed 119.55 Once you except your limitations, you can get out and enjoy the game we LOVE instead of loathing it. Open navigation menu. Justin Thomas and Excel Sports Management are not responsible for lost, stolen or damaged items. Cobra Radspeed 5W RDX Blue, Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4i Tour AD DI Does Trackman update this data each year? Trackman stats obviously don't mean that much either. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021). You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. I am writing a dissertation at university and was wondering how you got all your data. Yet I hit my driver 230 yards to what they say is average, 214. Ever found a yardage you like? Short hitter compared to the average WRXer Learn to play your game, but keep pushing yourself where sensible and on the range, and youll enjoy your round more and start playing much more consistent golf. Dont Waste Your Money, Should Your Wedges Match Your Irons? Ive hit greens from 210 out with a 20 degree hybrid. The following graph shows the distribution of AMA Driver club speeds. I play off 8 at a championship course 7200 yards in the UK. The average for those golfers was 117 mph. FYI I hit my drive 240-250 he often hits is way past me from the whites. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] The "you have to be a tour player to hit a long way" mentality is comical to say the least. Titleist 913D3 9.5* Diamana D+ 72s I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. |K_ %E_{/{5* Bx2 @ xM6#N Dont think they ever release that stuff. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. Learn how your comment data is processed. Do All Golf Balls Go the Same Distance? Due to the large volume of autograph requests, fulfillment of requests is not guaranteed. There he became one of the storied programs most decorated athletes being named Phil Mickelson Freshman of the Year, Jack Nicklaus Player of the Year, the Haskins Award Winner as the most outstanding player in collegiate and amateur golf, and capped his collegiate career by helping the Crimson Tide win their first National Championship in 2013. Little higher launch, still low spin into the wind, and much easier to swing day in and day out. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. First we have to determine the average length of the par 4s at your course from the different tees available. [/quote] My experience suggests that this is true. Shaft: Aldila NV, 7-wood: Callaway Big Bertha Its about 20% less when comparing PGA vs LPGA. WebIn 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. Clear editor. My SM8 wedges are a few years old and have played over the recommended 75 rounds. They must get club speed confused with ball speed, Cough Some people may exaggerate slightly , Hi My ball speed is with driver 195 km/h AND 160 km/h with a 6 iron Schaft = rgular or ???? xV#+D7xEouj|_\ctk--[ne5a|N}x^. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Spin Rate - 2200 rpm[/background][/size][/color] %PDF-1.5 Does that make sense? Its important to turn your body to get that extra speed. While golf has given Justin a career he thoroughly enjoys, he knows the life lessons golf can provide. So just to confirm what we are indeed up against we took a detailed look at just how far the top pros are hitting their clubs. Maybe for one swing he got there. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Average Distance - 302 yards[/background][/size][/color] show the real time hit - then after the shot replay it with the numbers/tracer. Now that you guys have more and more data from the combine tests are you going to adjust the hcap chart. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. Nothing feels better than a Vokey, theyre silky smooth and with the right setup just slide under the ball. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. Top 100 Player Analysis, drivers and fairway woods the top 100 PGA Tour players, How Do Pros Hit the Ball So Far? Distance to Apex 195.9 STEAL THESE FROM ME! I played Monday and hit my 1st 3 drives over 300 and in the fairway. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] Am I as good as tour pro? Couldn't of said it any better myself. Or should i take control on the distance i have? *Normalized data was used to calculate approach shot distances. Even when playing from the green tees at Torrey Pine South, the AMA is left with 165 yards for his approach shot. Graeme started playing golf when he was only 4 years old and has loved the game ever since. How Far Should You Hit a Driver? Their drives seem to always go miles and I dont know about you but Im always checking myself to think whether I indeed heard the commentator correctly that they are actually hitting that high an iron for that 200+ yard approach shot. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer I play from the whites if it is more of a difficult or bigger course. I've had the privilege of playing with and watching tour players in person, so I know what they're capable of. I spent a year playing by myself getting lessons finding a swing and just focused on having fun. Notice how few balls landed past the target.. The strategy implemented to create 10 additional yards of carry could be from lack of knowledge regarding how far each club goes. also his AoD on the stinger. Granted, their handicaps are high, but it gives a lot of support to what Mr. Pelz has been telling us all these years. To find a TrackMan Certified coach, please see our locator: trackmangolf.com/locator. [/quote] I would say probably is bs. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. I would say probably is bs. Join the Thomas family to help fund important programming for children in need, junior golf and military families. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. Launch angle was between 17-22. Here are Tiger's averages for this season on shots that were measured: For years, Justin has quietly used his fame and financial wherewithal to help many. Lol, so true.. Hang Time 5.8 A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. My average distance was 235-245. Your previous content has been restored. This analysis seems to be for elite athletes. ?, G#"% y\$)3(Q|1$xNyt7"g \)hEhH-hFtL+x The strike felt tight knit and the spin was better than my SM8 52 degree wedge. timestamp='1364355784' post='6704107'] Honestly many guys in this small % sort of make every other golfer feel like that . One suggestion could be to setup course length based on club speed and optimal driver efficiency. People that take hole distance & distance on approach to calculate driving distance is what's funny. Trackman golf terms: What Trackman results mean Club head speed: Club head speed is the speed that the club head is traveling at when it makes impact with the ball. I think the average student that I ask tells me that a tour player hits a 6 iron 220 yards. Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila NV 7-wood: Michael Hopper whats in the bag accurate as of the WM Phoenix Open. It's good for some laughs. The handicap system is equally misleading as the vast amount of amateur golfers dont have a handicap, and if they did, they would be 36.4. Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. Cobra Aerospeed 3W Kai'Li White You cannot paste images directly. Please have a look at the TrackMan locator at this link; https://mytrackman.com/public/locator, Kind regards Niklas Bergdahl Support Manager. I figured that out years ago based on hole distance and yardage to the flag after my tee shot. Either way I don't care. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Lets consider the (average) approach shot distance that the AMA will have on an average par 4. I went into a facility with Trackman launch monitors and have attached 714 AP2 4-p Golf critics talk about technology making golf courses obsolete because of distance, but what they fail to clarify is that this only pertains to 0.1% of the golfing population. My question is my average D is +5.3, 6I is +3.5 and 8I is +2.1. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. But mostly, when playing for the money, they dont. They hit 4-irons 208 yards and 5-irons 199 yards on average. 8.5* Tour Issue 07 Burner // PL Red 65x [/color] The fairways where I play are very firm and I get a fair amount of roll. Very unfortunately most of us are too busy with other things we need to do. The next table uses the approach distances from the previous and calculates the proximity to hole. Im a 42 year old 59 and been playing golf since I was 35. any 7 iron data ? I have completely lost my iron swing due to injury and need a swing coach as well as does your program cover this as well? [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] Driver: Titleist TSi3 (10 degrees) Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 X 3-wood: Titleist TSR3 (15 degrees @ 14.25) Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW Blue 75 TX Hybrid: Titleist TSi2 (21 degrees) Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ [] The ball shoots from the face and you lose the control of the ball. [/quote] But he does not average those. How to Hit Massive Drives! On top of that it drew me feeling like unless I can hit it 250 every time and at least shoot in the low 90s from the Blue I might as well just give golf up. Through such initiatives as the Justin Thomas Youth of the Year Leadership Academy with the Boys & Girls Club of Kentuckiana, USA Cares and the First Tee, Justin is committed to showing compassion, displaying kindness, and making a difference in the world. [color=#ff0000]I'd really like to see Tiger's path and face numbers too among others especially seeing how far left he aims at times. And also wondering how LPGA fits into this chart. 2 vs 3 vs 4 Hybrid Distances, How Far Should I Hit My Irons? [/quote] Club Speed 113 mph Ball Speed 166 mph Attack Angle -1 deg Launch Angle 12 deg Spin Rate 2298 rpm Many golfers save some money and buy the SM8s and others will upgrade from SM7s to SM9s. Driver: GolfWRX is on the ground in Orlando ahead of the 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational at Bay Hill Club & Lodge. Hes learned nothing Olympic legend launches scathing attack on Tiger Woods over tampon apology, Golf fans left bemused following bizarre Jim Nantz blunder, Best driver 2023: Expert club fitters recommend the best driver for your swing speed, An UP-CLOSE look at Tiger Woods famous Scotty Cameron putter, David Feherty ridiculed for Greg Norman comment during LIV broadcast, Tour pro says LIV would be done if Brooks Koepka returned to PGA Tour, TOUR REPORT: McIlroy switches drivers during Genesis Invitational (plus Tigers iron change). Does the AMA truly know how far each of their clubs carries? [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] And I suppose they hit it relatively far, but nearly the distances that the public thinks. Justin credits his success on the PGA TOUR to a childhood full of direction, support, and love. Scotty Squareback and Odyssey OG #7, Srixon ZX5 MKII Irons 4-PW Like New and a Titleist U505 4 Iron, OG Nike TW13 PING i59 irons Vessel Stand bag (trade). I think those numbers are a little high. I visited Hillside GC practice ground to have a full custom fitting session with the new SM9s. Add Driving Distance by Analyzing the Worlds Longest Driver! Odyssey Metal X Milled #1. Distance to Apex 195.9 Book a Session for only R500 to get your Swing Analysis. Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high The SM9s are an evolution of the Vokeys but not a drastic change, youll notice a difference between these and the SM6s but only a subtle change from the SM8s. Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) I know I hit the ball a long way though. Firstly there is really no need to play an 8 iron that long, secondly why on earth would you play nothing but trap draws especially with short iron This data further confirms the need for most golfers to aim towards the center of the green on all approach shots. By understanding simple averages and probabilities, a golfer can choose the best club and target for each shot. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. Required fields are marked *. me too! Anyone remember young Guan the 14 year old at Augusta he was so small he could only drive it 250 but did alright. As you can guess my improvement has now become dependent on driver efficiency and distance. I think this is very interesting but misleading. Shafts: Project X 125 6.5 (46), Project X 120 6.0 (52-60), Putter: Scotty Cameron 009 You've given me a good laugh for two days now. A look at Brooks Koepkas yardage book below gives us a great insight into this and highlights how many types of shots pros can play with their irons. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ratio - 1.48[/background][/size][/color] What was the actual value of swing speed group 105 mph+, since it shows 0%. I originally tried the 12 bounce in the 52 degree but I could feel the club stuttering in the turf at impact. The goals of the Justin Thomas Foundation reflect the altruistic aspirations of the Thomas family. The following is Torrey Pines South, where golfers line up each morning for a chance to play one of Americas 100 Greatest Public Courses (Golf Digest). Shafts: True Temper Project X PXi, Wedges: Cobra Trusty Rusty (50, 55), Tour Trusty (60) Thanks for posting. [/quote] At just 29-years old, he can lay claim to 2 Major victories, a FedEx Cup Championship, PLAYERS Championship and a PGA TOUR Player of the Year Award. Knowing tee shot distances and iron distances helps with that. f[yZ3 /=KCYOSg~VN@ ae@.Xq@U$ Q\8H`/ 9Hj: .1xq Executive Director, The First Tee of Louisville, Jennifer Helgeson Your link has been automatically embedded. I know I hit the ball a long way though. I must say to the trap draw crowd, Justin Thomas isn't hitting trap draws while winning tournaments on the PGA Tour. He doesn't have the luxury of Its Not About the Equipment. Carry Efficiency 2.51 Sorry that I can not be of better help right now. There are golfers out there who are scratch only hitting the ball 200-250. Trackman is pretty interesting, obviously path and angle of attack change depending on the shot your trying to shape. That's what I think. http://web.tigerwoods.com/onTour/seasonStatistics. T 'enG~q/Om\#Q`{ HLRpC45`|NiG*"2agUTeu9d10S8xl?O`,`~ja~=j'(d~e?7UN+&iHPI=8NQQ={"K9R1d"3j$NJd[?@fUM)IxJ)Sn-bcVk7*"d9;&!0tB%=7$W&q&:L^q1|T]6k)SF These high-level numbers of course dont always tell the whole story as the pros like us are faced with an infinite variety of golf shots which dont always mean they are hitting each club as far as they possibly can for every shot. Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high More photos from the event here. 6 0 obj Great read with invaluable data and information. Milled grooves - SM9 sees Titleist use a new saw to cut their grooves, instead of stamping them onto the face. This way the material is removed from the face and not spread out which means the grooves are sharper and weight isn't dispersed. Carry Distance 302.9 Obviously not. That means the distance from the center of the green tothe edge averages just under 44 feet. Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. When it comes to talking about distance in golf the easiest and most obvious place to start is of course always with the longest club in the golf bag the driver. [quote]I don't measure my driver distance. You can watch my full review via the Golfalot YouTube channel here: If you like what you see, please make sure you SUBSCRIBE to our YouTube channel to see all Golfalot video reviews and features first. TI Taylormade SIM Ti (15.4) Tensei CK Pro Blue 80X Ball Speed- 176.38 average, 179.45 high If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364416031' post='6708919'] On the LPGA Tour the top pros hit their driver an average of 257.7 yards. Dustin Johnson can hit a putter 400 yards The fairways where I play are very firm and I get a fair amount of roll.
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