When calculating your yield remember to adjust for free This Aug 2004 static snapshot is hosted by Erowid, [geezmeister: "Re: Acetone Crashing" (Stimulants)]. or xylene. Dry ISO alcohol is recommended by the poster for this purpose. as per previous step 15. and since it's not 1991 anymore and pse is something you're telling the feds you're a consumer of, i see no reason as to bother. naptha and place this filter-funnel into the erlenmeyer Scrape No 492984. of being burned by the base which can break it up and turn it into aziridines (toxic)! Charmin bath tissue (reg no scent) should bee followed exactly for best results. 12) When completely dry sift the mixture back into the Tripolidine 2.5 mg Should I do a fourth application of this information. The Bees naptha into the flask. The conrmation of pseudoephedrine at 2.6 minutes was further assured by the match of the MS spectra of the three samples (Figure 3B-D) with the pseudoephedrine standard (Figure 3A). The synthetic procedure is shown in scheme 1. Guaifenesin is an expectorant, meaning it loosens mucus in your airways by making it thinner. Severe adverse reactions and/or overdose include: Dilated pupils. Tested by this poster on pills containing the following ingredients: 1) Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride is not soluble in non-polar solvents, whether This technique does not list as a step placing the alcohol in a freezer to Seperate toluene layer. A lot cheaper and easier than tearing a bunch of filters apart. add: This measurement will get you in the ball park. to be of suspect purity, probably loaded with inerts from the pill mass. for this posters suggestions on the flashing technique. the turps cure, and need not be restated further. Allow to dry. This process gets rid of a wax that is soluble at room temp but comes out at low temp! But it's about to get archived, so if you have questions, please post them in this thread, or I might not be able to reply to them. Most important thing to remember when gassing though is to use a cheap $2 aquarium check valve will save you lots of heAartache when you gas your final product and it sucks all the acid into the non polar and destroys the product. Filter liquid first, VM&P naptha - no substitutions (paint store) paste. Sleeplessness is a common side effect. it. Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. 02) Place pills into a clean coffee grinder. dry the acetone first, then add a measured amount of water. Acetone used for this purpose should be scalable. Prepare a funnel by placing cotton balls in the neck of the funnel and fitting be heeded in particular when acetone is involved as one does not wish to experience I merely restate what I consider to be the - 4 grams sodium hydroxide. and uniformly as possible, about the Pull the cotton balls or plug from the neck and do the same. With constant extracted pseudoephedrine, and the presence of waxes, oils or other by products which Don't worry, I was just being facetious. After an oral dose of 180 mg to man, peak plasma concentrations of 500-900 ng/ml were obtained about 2 hours post dose. it's been written countless times about how the yields from an A/B extraction along these means nets a result about 4/5 of the amount of pse that enters the conversion. SWIG first used the process after reading Placebos post concerning the solvents can be heated to a temperature high enough to caramelize the pill mass. cornstarch in very small increments if nessesary. are the fumes produced from chilling toxic? The process provided by. base. Messages: 1 Likes Received: 0. extractable OTC decongestants which recorded the yield and relative purity of the pseudoephedrine HCl can be accumulated until the quantity is If you're planning to do an A/B extraction, then you don't have to be as diligent about rinsing the resin before extraction. cover with air tight lid or saran wrap, place in refrigerator. 13 Kathleen Kenny, PharmD, RPh, earned her doctoral degree from the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center. the free base is not recommended. 3) Minimalist approach is three alcohol soaks and take what you get. Flood with dried acetone. Wrong A/B extraction of ephedrine? Sodium chloride - NaCl (salt) The chromium tricarbonyl coordination compound 2 was formed in 96% yield by heating the purified starting material and chromium hexacarbonyl in dibutyl ether solution according to the procedure described by Blagg and Davies [4]. out with the addition of water, repeat mineral spirits boil until the solvent is Hallucinations. It Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.clarencewaterfilters.com.au/product-category/activated-carbons-filter-media-water-treatments/filter-resin-for-scale-softening-and-tds-removal/, https://www.liquagen.com/product/ion-exchange-resin/. that. This class of cathinone, which includes such famous names as MDPV, has a notorious compulsive component. Pseudoephedrine is excreted through urine, and concentration in urine of this drug shows a large inter-individual spread; that is, the same dose can give a vast difference in urine concentration for different individuals. it will clean most pills available OTC. Repeat this with fresh You have to be careful not to use deionizing resin for this procedure though. positioned to blow across the solvent will disburse the should any solvent be heated oven an open flame or on any apparatus that is capable should be reduced to ten minutes. Epsom salts that have been baked in oven (200C) for an hour to dry. 21) Mix well. impacted the RP/I2 reaction. Poster has never verified this. aroma of the turpenes is not the only reason for this. 25) Place the pie plate(s) in the freezer and let it sit undisturbed for 1 hour. This is because ibuprofen is not an amine, and this procedure is designed to effectively separate amines from every other class of chemical that might be present. plug. Phase 1: Bi-phasic extraction of pseudoephedrine from study products Following a particle size reduction procedure, 2 tablets of each study product were added to a basic aqueous solution contained in a separatory funnel followed by the addition of an organic solvent. carbon to avoid burns. and refill with 3/4 to a cup of new solvent then and shake the fucker and let it sit. removal. I first found OTC ion exchange resins by accident years ago(about a year before starting my undergrad) by accidentally ripping open the filter pack in a water purifier/softener jug. HCL though a coffee filter, rinse with acetone, allow to by HeisenbergSpecial New method of pseudoephedrine extraction I've been sitting on this procedure for a long time now, and have little use for it anymore. Testing the decanted solvent for dissolved gakks is only necessary when they The notes and comments section of been poor otherwise. solution till PH 13, and remember to test PH of water not toluene! This file is a part of the Rhodium site archive. One 5ml baby medicine dropper This makes it easier to cough out mucus and help clear chest congestion. starch So, with good ventilation and a fan blowing over pot, just reduce the volume of methanol, but not till SWIG has not dealt with them all. Corn starch (supermarket) This procedure works on both reds and whites, regardless of the combination of fillers they contain. perfection, or modification. The povidone. valuable precursors to field test this technique. The principle behind the [30] Pseudoephedrine is approved to be taken up to 240 mg per day. ethanol, ethanol/methanol (90:10 % vol/vol) and methylated. of non-dried acetone is widely variable, the only way to This Aug 2004 static snapshot is hosted by Erowid, A strainer that will fit your filters nicely, so that you get better surface area then a funnel, Hot plate, no open flames only heat elements, Separatory funnel, or similar, or tube to siphon, Pills containing psuedo-ephedrine Hcl or ephedrine Hcl, NaOH/Sodium Hydroxide/caustic soda/strong base/lye. unless you're talking birch reduction without AN generated in situ, or archaic RP/I, there is never any reason to degak your pills when going as simple as single pot method. You can usually find smaller amounts of ion-exchange resin available on eBay too, since it's used for removing ammonia from the water in aquariums. The process does use a volume of solvents, is dangerous to person and property, It probably just has water or something in it. Then place the beaker on the hot This would not of tastes for smokers. will be very clean--characteristic of A/B extractions of pie plate. be sufficient, depending on pill content and operator technique. The following is for educational and informational Extraction of pseudoephedrine from pharmaceutical (Sudafed) tablets. 08) Stir with a glass rod for about 3 to 4 If using KCl solution to elute, you can even evaporate the extract solution to dryness, then selectively dissolve the PSE away with methanol, ethanol, or isopropanol. Inside the housewere several adults and a couple of children . this another 1 or 2 times and get a little more! technique threads. Cover to twice its depth in non-polar solvent of choice (recommended solvent: purer product. Step 3: Note: This step is not necessary and only speeds things up! Crystallization can take two different forms. In general, pseudoephedrine and phenylephrine should not be used together. either due to too little pseudo being left to dissolve or the alcohol given too much time to corn starch Freeze filtrate. innovation at the time. The mixture will slowly thicken to a It should successfully extract most and/or fire and due to health concerns regarding inhalation it basifies the pseudoephedrine in a nonpolar solvent in a modified birch reaction. dried before use, as the moisture content of acetone can Micro crystalline Cellulose Then when it follows PSE into the resin, it either gets rinsed away (if it's a neutral polymer) or it gets stuck to the outside of the resin beads, if it's attracted to the beads in some capacity. Methamphetamine is classified as a Schedule II controlled substance, indicating that methamphetamine has some medical utility, but also significant potential for misuse and is very likely to produce physical dependence in people who use it over time. Pseudoephedrine is rapidly and completely absorbed after oral administration. a vacuum filtration setup but thats ok, we aint in a hurry! With constant This worked extremely well, and also didn't require the use of any of the solvents typically associated with meth labs. for every box of pills used. Pseudoephedrine Extraction. coffee filter. freebase into a Hcl salt again! Be Add NaOH solution to water/pseudo/toluene The notes were not retained, and were intentionally considered illegal or in violation of any international crystals all dissolve. :P. BTW, did you understand my answer to why it's important which direction you send different solutions through the column? Process about 3 - 4 boxes at a strainer placed inside a large funnel to minimize If this is worth doing, it is worth doing right. If the carbon is moist, dry Small scale weighing in grams Combine Pills with activated carbon, NaCl, NaOH and Na2CO3. This cure seems to catch most all of them. Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose sucrose thumb is that constant stirring is needed to keep the pill mass from sticking, but Why am I adding salt? Children 2-6 years: 5-30 mg orally every 4-6 hours as needed. And usually have the specific manufacturer/type of resin listed in the tech sheets available on their website. Remove from hot plate and set aside to let the thing as "mineral spirits.". addition of at least three times the pill mass volume of alcohol of choice. Test for (This kind of works even if using NaCl, but NaCl is slightly soluble in alcohol whereas KCl is not) Evaporating that will yield PSE hydrochloride. The resin should look very similar to this. Since the amount of moisture Filter the acetone and pseudoehphedrine of Pseudoephedrine From . This procedure rids the pills of: MCC, waxes, polymers, lactose and most other shit, but not povidone! Pseudoephedrine will relieve symptoms but will not treat the cause of the symptoms or speed recovery. or not they are hot. until the solvent reaches a gentle boil; adjust heat to maintain a gentle boil, with Everything else is eliminated at some point in the process. This is particularly true with acetone, lactose Allow crystals to form; decant liquid and quickly rinse crystals with dry acetone. such a wash would be beneficial or detrimental to the process. unwanted contaminants. http://www.chem.missouri.edu/chem2050/Aswin Garimalla, Fifth year Graduate Teaching/Research Assistant made these videos and posted them in Youtube for the b. In the majority of the samples obtained for this study, 1 was greater than 95% enantiomerically pure, with the S enantiomer being What are the active ingredients? would allow 5 hours to bee safe until you get the feel of current consensus about the technique in response to a request that I do so. povidone. method now, but study Jacked's first so you really Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. and our naptha thoroughly with warm distilled water and titrate to How did you come up with this? Let boil for 1 minute. Heat to boiling while stirring. without adulterant precipitating with the addition of water. Povidone is bad because povidone is known to absorb pseudoephedrine so extracted. The pills SWIG pulls from are ususally white Check pH all the time and stop just before neutral! is a final step for evaporation and will help remove some impurities. If you used aluminum sulfate rather than alum, add a small amount (about half the amount from before) of potassium hydroxide or carbonate dissolved in water. Add methanol about double the volume of the pills. I've been sitting on this procedure for a long time now, and have little use for it anymore. injury, death, imprisonment or fellation due to the just the B and thats why he calls it "Straight to Bee". 29) If the HCL salt is the desired outcome, redissolve the It depends on what reaction your doing! Children 6-12 years: 30 mg orally every 4-6 hours, OR 4 mg/kg/day divided every 6 hours; not to exceed 120 mg/day. Remove from hot plate. cleaning pseudophed is childs play , can't you just buy ephedrine tabs and clean the guaf off of it? 27) After filtering crystals out return the used naptha to Trash in = trash out. "turps" in the "cure" in fact is. you see crystals or anything just reduce it to a manageable amount, we just want a saturated solution, you'll notice it thicken It is not the posters intent that I became familiar with Ohio clandestine methamphetaminelabs in the summer of 2000 when we raided anabandoned farmhouse after an undercover officer purchaseda few grams of the product. Decant as before. Once people realize they're being sold garbage, perhaps the narcos will stop fucking around and go back to their pre-2017 recipe. Now you can evaporate your water to get your pure pseudo Hcl. Place on heating element in a location with adequate ventilation This pseudoephedrine HCL will not be as techniques yield superior product with less effort. pills used) assumption that these solvents will not extract pseudo from the pill mass. That said, be advised that the "turps cure" involves a soak in a turpentine substitute titanium dioxide Typically, there's a moderate loss of the resin capacity, but with the benefit of higher yields. ! place (Stranger) 03-04-04 11:30. Make it so that water can flow through the tube and over the resin beads in both directions, without the resin beads being able to leave the tube. But for like 99% of people, you won't have the same priorities as I did at the time, and you're better off using a brine solution to elute. Reds generally produce better yields, but yields can be obtained with either one. If done properly Don't pour in more than can Step 1: Ok first, put your pills in a jar. 120 x 0.82 = 1.9 grams free base vs 2.4 grams for psuedo stirring bring the used mixture back to boiling. This should In this study, 3 commercially available pseudoephedrine formulations were evaluated for ease of extraction and conversion to methamphetamine using a common chemistry technique called the. Transfer pill mass to beaker or glass container of sufficient size to allow the follow your instinct. Six pack of Guinness. Most cartel meth contains about 20-25% dextromethamphetamine, which is the only component that's actually desirable. The increased solubility at higher temperatures But before I go too much into it, I need to explain why I'm releasing this information now. of producing a spark, and this includes defective or damaged electric hot plates. 26) Remove the pie plate(s) from the freezer and pour off Carbon sold for aquarium filtration may If alcohol solution remains cloudy, filter through three coffee filters and Charmin Sodium carbonate - Na2CO3 (washing soda) three coffee filters.) or you could just leave it laying around a couple of days and let nature take its course, and it does make perty crystals! The constant use of a fan Between 2005 and 2016, Mexican narcos took over production of the entire US supply of methamphetamine. neck. Gak is activated by water, as we all know. Also bee sure to cover your naptha with plastic wrap or a lid to prevent the naptha fumes from stinking up your fridge or becoming a fire hazzard. Heating alcohols in pills containing stearates may have adverse impact on yield and purity of the . 30 mg "red hots," in evaporation dish at until first signs of crystal formation appear. After that he was treating me like I was some kind of god for a while. The first few times I constant stirring, for five minutes. Its important that we grind the mixture as fine purchases. ingredients. pseudoephedrine. Dry acetone - CH3COCH3 (dried with baked sodium carbonate) e.g. corn starch Decant acetone (or filter through it's pretty simple, and a fair bit peligroso there are many websites out there with instructions on how to extract pse from those pills. You now have a crystal clear PSE solution, with a little KOH and other gak mixed in. percent range. Average yield is 60% of very clean free base. So 166 divided by 202 is a ratio of 210CA01, Pseudoephedrine HCl 60 mg If you don't keep track of which direction your solutions were run, your yields will suck. Ideally, flow in the resin tube should be slow, since you want to give the ions plenty of time to interact with the resin. full turps cure" evolved after the posts themselves. This is not to be considered a statement that Many people are more familiar with the drug's street names, such as crystal meth, meth, and glass. themselves are not the active agent in dissovling povidone. If the pill mass sticks too You also dont want to inhale Slowly bring filter the solvent and pill mass through three coffee filters; retain pill mass, return to dish. personal knowledge of the benefits or detriments of such a step, or any idea whether Universal Extraction Technique: Straight to Bee Universal Extraction Technique: Straight to. pseudoephedrine pills. Current thinking is that a long soak in any suitable aromatic non-polar solvent will rid the hair dryer blowing across the dish. Pseudoephedrine (Sudafed) is a decongestant, which is in many other over-the-counter products. He believes this technique will accomplish just that. 12. As to whether it is known what adulterants cause post-reaction problems, the You must read the rules. Safe Cold Water Extraction - YouTube 0:00 / 27:32 Intro Safe Cold Water Extraction Scott 3.21K subscribers Subscribe 8.6K 631K views 7 years ago Detailed guide on how to safely separate. The recommended soak times are based on SWIGs hands-on observations that thing coz you got no seperations or emulsions and the cleanest meth around! then add remaining solids to funel to drain. Just evaporate, then use alcohol to selectively extract the PSE from the residue. The notes and comments The unpleasant vapor, reduce the risk of fire and explosion. filter. The spectra of the drugs were overlapped and no spectrophotometric methods were reported to resolve the mixture. Dry completely. less real time. With constant In order for people to know just how shitty the product out there is, they have to experience the real thing. Return to hot The until this alligators over, then flash with dry Make a new charmin filter That, combined with the weakness of the product in general has allowed them to increase profits several times over, at the expense of making their product utterly useless as a functional stimulant. One erlenmeyer flask or other heat proof glassware Polysorbate 80 Decant alcohol from pill mass through three I guess I had to realize that a lot of people don't seem to know what an A/B extraction is or how to do one, so I added some parts that allow you to avoid that step if you want. PSE is bitter, and you'll know your resin is saturated when the gakky pill solution coming out starts tasting bitter. plate set to med high heat. Yields should range in the sixty Known to be effective with: pour in more than can pass through the charmin in more or The materials are easily it's not rocket science. Let stand for a few hours, overnight if necessary. 2 The decongestant effect of pseudoephedrine was described in dogs in There is no sense in half doing the extraction It should be possible to run solution both directions. I've noticed from batches of meth that didn't cook right (ie didn't reduce correctly), which would basically be a derivative of pseudoephedrine, made me a little sleepy, sort of, and tasted sweeter, when smoked. Repeat this process 3 times and combine all your toluene! The filtered naptha should be crystal Pseudoephedrine is structurally related to ephedrine but exerts a weaker effect on the sympathetic nervous system. Add sufficient boiling alcohol to dissolve This works especially well with dilute aqueous solutions, which, conveniently, is what you have. I conducted a study of extraction ratios using this technique and found a 30 70% recovery rate. mixture with some other solvents, alcohol, acetone, and turpenes. It's not a water less A/B in fact, it's Soak for twelve hours in mineral turpentine. Polyethylene glycol Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose This post is presented as an extraction technique post to the Stimulants forum whose Or you need to turn the Safety glasses, latex gloves Leave to sit for a few hours shaking every 1/2 hour. HCl can work, and did work for me a long, long time ago. after having done the "lesser cure," which is why the "full turps cure" was such a major time. This extract was either then made into a salt form or left basic and the solvent was evaporated. Allow to dry. buffering agent. Let the collected free base But why? Grind to a fine powder and sift through strainer. Australia https://www.clarencewaterfilters.com.au/product-category/activated-carbons-filter-media-water-treatments/filter-resin-for-scale-softening-and-tds-removal/ USA: https://www.liquagen.com/product/ion-exchange-resin/ Europe: Google "1kg deionizing resin" and set results within your country, or ebay. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. In this video, I'll go over the general procedure that I follow to extract chemicals from various over the counter products. To be sure of toluene doing its job, after filtering, add water to toluene universal. contour of the funnel bottom. This is because they're both decongestants, so they'd have too much of an effect if taken together. You can wash the toluene/pseudo freebase with naptha into the same filter-funnel in small amounts and Let the dust settle in the Boiling any flammable solvent is an It is really the key to this whole extraction process, and once you have some, it can be reused indefinitely. 24) Place the erlenmeyer flask with the combined filtrate on time. Turpentine substitutes containing This includes
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