He even says: "The Black Winter killed the universe before ours, Thor" But going back to RK Thor. As life throughout the universe dies, the Tree of Life also dies. Regardless From what we know that seed links to ten specific worlds in the universe. Because their first words are about Thor's strength as well as his wisdom - they know what he's capable of, and if they could have stopped him, he wouldn't be capable of such, and they would have never acknowledged that so freely. ''He survived the death of a multiverse'' This has so many broad explanations that is laughable, or I am missing context here? Knowing the history of the Phoenix and how it tends to destroy planets, Captain America wants to keep Hope as far away from it as possible. And thus we see Yggdrasil imploding into itself. send you an email once approved. https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11139/111396494/7759570-4849779309-main-qimg-61e21132c5e940f7ad86e21215c9c21e.jpg, https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11139/111396494/7759577-1726217318-main-qimg-37f7b0eabd8788df737f0d82f080a5b4.jpg, https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11139/111396494/7759578-4123258155-main-qimg-568def4d818ceb04a5d55dd25e255a71.jpg. Rune King Thor is not multiversal. Hes immortal, imperious to the majority of earthly weapons, and hes one of the greatest fighters of any age. Beta and Thor formed a rivalry over Mjolnir and got the attention of Odin himself. He was again proving that the map I showed is still valid. Written by Tom DeFalco and Ron Frenz, the tale featured Thor and Hercules standing high atop a plateau on a far-off planet, where they would arm-wrestle one another to finally put an end to the question about who was stronger. He has certain feats people try to wank to multiversal (using lightning to damage Amatsu Mikaboshi, briefly knocking out the Phoenix Force, etc.) And a few complex multiversal feats (scaling to Odin with Odin Force,or the time he bench pressed the world engine. He has base Superman at Multiversal and thinks New 52 is relative to Pre-Crisis as well. Not only did he defeat another herald of Galactus, but he also destroyed an entire planet without causing himself any harm. Still at the end of the day the Ten Realms are not ten universes, they aren't even ten different dimensions. Moments later, Thor explains he just ripped apart and sealed Loki under millions of tons of debris. All the while, the cosmic beings Chaos and Order are observing the match. Seda Tripkolic Yazklar Olsun Sz Mzik Ne Ay Geceden mran Var feat. Thor is injured during the fight and when he regains consciousness, hes in Asgard, but things seem peculiar. He did nothing universal, less alone multiversal. During the Marvel event "AvX", the Avengers are locked in battle with the X-Men over the fate of Hope Summers. Here are some of his amazing feats of strength. Yggdrasil is not a multiverse. Thor and Simon help the local frog king fight off the rats they were at war with. Now unleashed, its up to Thor to put the Destroyer back in the ground. Thus what RK Thor accomplished was to destroy a parasitic tree, that at the time fed on the lives of those nine realms. Old King Thor often refers to 616 Thor as his past self and has insinuated that if 616 Thor dies, so does he. Odin made that claim for all the ten realms in a 2015 comic, that was written by the current head of marvel cosmic stuff, Al Ewing Rkt he destroyed all of the Marvel omniverse. Mangog is the physical embodiment of an entire race that was killed by Odin and channels the strength of a billion billion being. During the Marvel event known as "Acts of Vengeance," Loki has gotten fed up with all the superheroes running around. Doctor Donald Blake, Thors civilian identity, decides to investigate the matter. And I say the nine realms, because as the Loom is destroyed, we can then see that Yggdrasil had always been a tool of Those Who Sit Above In Shadow. It's a very efficient way to wank and disregard Anti Feats, Lmfao they think that Hulk has a true form which is archetype of archetypes of strength and is outerversal. In an effort to assist Odin, Thor evades the Silver Surfer and flies directly into Galactuss head. both are at full power; win by death; 10 weeks of prep; morals off; all feats, scans, scaling and statements allowed Goes double for the depictions of Yggdrasil. When Captain Americas god squad encounters the Phoenix, the cosmic bird easily incapacitates everyone until only Thor is left. The Silver Surfer has come quite a way since his time spent as the herald of Galactus. Kratos is the protagonist of the God of War series. I just check in from time to time (create a thread or two in a years out of curiosity) and all I see are salty kids. In the midst of their battle the Silver Surfer surrounds Thors hammer with an impenetrable force field, but as their battle ends and Thor doesnt have to hold back anymore, he easily shatters the Surfers shield, much to the latters surprise. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Upon landing, they maintain the contest -- only now the match has become so impressive that the two have generated enough pressure to knock the whole world out of orbit. In The Mighty Thor #281, the thunder god is ruminating over a recent encounter he had with the Eternals and the Celestials. Both have demonstrated feats that go well beyond mortal understanding. So what Odin lavish story comes down to is this: When the Asgardians (and other races) already existed, His father Bor, Odin, Vili and Ve found a crack in the ground, In that crack they found a seed that clearly held great power within it, And Bor planted the seed and from the seed a tree grew. Outside of Collider, Zachary also writes comic books, novels, screenplays, and more. It also exists on every plane of reality. However he does realizes that the tapestry of the Fates was rigged to move in an endless cycle. Regardless After things go back to normal in a typical relaunch manner we then got this. Olympus in order to fight Ares. He instead helps Surtur and his forces lay waste to his land and people. Has quite a few multiversal feats. I own it but don't want to look it up. Discord is even worse than Comicvine, People on discord create true forms for almost every character out there. RK Thor himself claims that Those Who Sit Above In Shadow were simply a race of celestial beings that fed on the cycle of Ragnarok. You can see that Asgard is even given a scale of size. Still we can see the several lands that make up Asgard. I guess shaking dimensions and busting universes are unimpressive cuz of people like Hulk and IronClad trading blows along the crossroads and Dark Cho's 123.2 richter scale achievement. Thor, the God of Thunder, is unquestionably not only one of Earths mightiest heroes, but one of the most powerful forces for good throughout the whole universe. The idea is that if, for example, Captain America is constantly defeating the Red Skull, then Doctor Doom will fight Captain America or enlist another heavy hitter to fight the Avenger. Now these are not multiversal but a non holding back Thor is definitely way way beyond planet busting 1 Pokemonerd25 4 yr. ago Towards the end of the battle, it appeared as though Cable was going to win. In The Mighty Thor #327, the god Tyr, displeased with the way Odin has been running Asgard, decides its time for someone else to rule. He did nothing universal, less alone multiversal. Thor Odinson, as far as Marvel Comics is concerned, is the original. During his time spent on Earth, Silver Surfer gained the attention of the evil demon Mephisto. Now Destroying the Loom is not the same as actually directly defeating Those Who Sit Above In Shadow. Realizing hes about to lose, Mongoose flees and destroys a couple of the skyscrapers support pillars while he escapes. Still, Thor managed to crack the Celestials skull, something no mortal has accomplished. In Journey Into Mystery #118, a big game hunter comes across the Destroyer armor in the Temple of Darkness and inadvertently sets it free, his mind waking the weapon. And from the union of Ouranos and Gaia came the Titans. 10 Most Powerful Thor Variants From The Movies & Comics, Valkyrie's New Costume In Thor Love And Thunder, Thor And Jane Romance In Thor Love And Thunder. He simply brought down the walls that kept Asgard safe. Made out of a mystery metal stronger than uru, the metal that makes up Mjolinir, Odin and company fueled the armor with their magic. So RKT is above all that. So here Thor admits that not even he could change what had already been written by the Fates, and thus by Those Who Sit Above In Shadow. Yggdrasil is infinite in its complexities and Heimdall sees all of space and time in it. Simon Walterson had a rough go at life after he lost his wife and unborn child. So here are RK Thor feats: Feat #1 RK Thor can't escape death on his own, he needs to summon the spirit of Odin to take him away from Hel. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QNxt3kobWIY. Def above planetary. 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And he isn't multiversal because Yggdrasil unlike what some claims have been made. https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11139/111396494/7759583-5089762588-main-qimg-af4f933b00c5bf1b0ffc602112c1dfbe.jpg, https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11139/111396494/7759592-3127759999-main-qimg-c37523a9341fe72fdbed2f50353bb3ea.jpg, https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_super/11139/111396494/7759594-6715416491-main-qimg-a5873cc833364deecd67fab550a5b710.jpg, So when RK Thor does this. They are mistaking really that with DC's Ares and Darkseid. This energy was so powerful that, once it reached a nearby planet, it starting accelerating that planet's evolutionary processes. Their battle raged on for some time, leading them to an uninhabited planet. Then, just by flexing, Thor breaks free of the adamantium cables. Feeling proud of yourself, yet? Thankfully, it doesnt take much longer for Thor to realize whom the real villain is and he joins the good guys once again. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Nothing happened to them. After becoming a doctor, she later met the God of Thunder himself. Every character got their gritty spin, some worse than others. Imagine thinking any skyfather could be multiversal to begin with. The jokes write themselves.. ANYWAYS. Thor-El is what you get when you mix the God of Thunder with the Man of Steel. In Warp World, each soul paired with another, causing many mixtures of characters across the universe. So much, in fact, that there is a good argument to be had that this cosmic surfer is the most powerful character in the Marvel universe. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Still at the end of the day the Ten Realms are not ten universes, they aren't even ten different dimensions. Instead of killing Galactus, Norrin Radd chose to use his cosmic abilities to satiate the being's hunger, then traveled with him again, all the while sustaining Galactus with his power. With strength beyond measure, just his name is enough to cause most civilizations to cower. Mangog likes the plan and teams up with Thanos. Thor #288: Thor has knocked out the Forgotten One (Gilgamesh) with three blows. Even before the two first met back in Avengers #3, fans wanted to know who was stronger. Among the strongest and most dangerous foes Thor has ever faced is the Destroyer armor. https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11139/111396494/7759604-2097626744-main-qimg-bb6da884ed5344f5cca08100d4782b5f.jpg, https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11139/111396494/7759605-5217252922-main-qimg-2c4593c4eebfc524dbaf4663e7a2f1fe.jpg. This would be neither the first nor the last time Thor would accomplish send Galactus tumbling. Which again proves just how powerful he was. Using the power cosmic, not only can Silver Surfer overpower the Hulk, but he can also send him into unconsciousness or simply drain all of his gamma radiation, turning the green giant back into Bruce Banner. Now having to return to Earth, Thor and company come across the interdimensional gateway through which Ares forces invaded. RELATED:Thor And Jane Romance In Thor Love And Thunder. New Movie News, Movie Trailers & upcoming Movie Reviews, 10 Times Silver Surfer Proved He Was The Most Powerful Character In The Marvel Universe, 5. He found his love of writing and love of comics at a young age, making it his passion ever since. At least its a futile gesture for anyone other than Thor. During the fight, Namor tackles the thunder god and Thor hits Namor harder than he intended, accidentally knocking him out. Over the years, Thor has demonstrated what it truly means to wield the power of a god. But Gaia felt lonely and thus with the permission of the Chaos she birthed the Sky and everything in the firmament. While on the planet Pangoria, Thor notices the Celestials have arrived and are about to destroy the world. However, the thunder god can see that unless drastic steps are taken, Galactus and his father will be locked in a stalemate. On a few separate occasions, Silver Surfer has shown the ability to survive within the impossible harsh conditions of a black hole. Nothing happened to them. When it looks like the Asgardians might be winning, the shapeshifters unleash their ultimate Super-Skrull, one bred to destroy Thor and who carries Stormbreaker, Bills famous weapon. While fans constantly debate about whether the Hulk or Thor is stronger, theres another group of readers who pontificate on whether Hercules, the Prince of Power, is mightier than Thor, the God of Thunder. In this comic, we see an amalgam of Thor and Superman. Later in their respective superhero careers, Thor and Silver Surfer would meet many more times. Beta Ray Bill is the champion of the Korbinites, a race whose home was destroyed by Surtur. Justiceleague1 . But Gaia felt lonely and thus with the permission of the Chaos she birthed the Sky and everything in the firmament. Piercing the Chaos King with lightning, forcing Galactus to fall back with God Blast and maybe scaling to Hulk's outliers, as far as I know. Kinda like a self fulfilling wish, where they made Those Who Sit Above In Shadow become real. Lmao. They just love use lyrics/poem speech to misinterprete facts and feats to wank those characters while plot says different ( spoken in normal/novel language ). Had to make an account just for this. As life throughout the universe dies, the Tree of Life also dies. Moondragon is known as one of the most powerful psychics in the universe. Originally a mongoose that was experimented on by the High Evolutionary, Mongoose (as hed come to call himself) was turned into a human-sized, bi-pedal, fully sentient creature. Thor opens a chasm of earth, which Loki falls into, only to then literally pull the earth back together again. https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11139/111396494/7759562-1986290575-main-qimg-ac6741c31eae7ef06a9a33918e12b651.jpg, More so the Silver Surfer himself points out that Asgard is simply part of Universe 616. Theyve seen stories from different timelines and different realities time and time again. Long story short, Loki tricks the two heroes into doing battle and as two of the strongest heroes in Marvel, there battle is as epic as youd imagine. The group splits into tow, with one group staying on Earth to combat Ares invaders, and the other goes to Olympus to free Hercules. You can see that Asgard is even given a scale of size. With neigh unlimited power, the Silver Surfers abilities and powers are nearly unparalleled amongst mortals. https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11139/111396494/7759611-8264830890-main-qimg-af2c33116c6fa304849d3a5f88713239.jpg. His job undone, Thor enters Exitar's head and performs another of his all-time greatest feats: Tying his Belt of Power around Mjolnir to focus his energies, Thor unleashes his God Blast, hitting Exitar's brain with the all of his lifeforce. In one instance, Thor gets to the top of a temple and leg-presses a million-ton arch of solid rock down onto his foe. They refuse and Silver Surfer relays the message to his master. Even though Thor and Hercules are friends, the two are also staunch rivals. Celestials wouldn't plee and they wouldn't simply sit and let Thor ruin their plans. The two characters are constantly paired by fans in the classic who would win debates. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The two have battled each other multiple times and in each instance their fights are typically paused or halted become of some contrived reason. The event "Secret Invasion" featured the alien shapeshifting race known as the Skrulls, and how theyd infiltrated nearly every branch of superhero team and government. Capable of fighting Thor and even the Hulk, Hercules is also one of the most powerful members of the Avengers. He also injured Galactus even he defeated serpent who is a Odin tier enemy. Yggdrasil is simply a structure. Bestowed upon him by the world eater Galactus, the Power Cosmic is the source of all the abilities of Silver Surfer. He actually helps Surtur reach Asgard. He also has resisted Mephisto tier sound destruction,or Mephisto tier magic. For example, some guy said that Superman would beat Multi-Eternity, and that base hulk is thousands of times stronger than strange visitor superman. The two fight each other with everything they have until eventually the pair grab hands, locked in mortal combat, either unwilling to budge an inch. A character so abstract, and awe inspiring, that you cannot possibly determine his limits. 9 9. No. Nearly every planet is connected to the World Tree in some way. RK Thor can't escape death on his own, he needs to summon the spirit of Odin to take him away from Hel. That spark was Gaia, Mother Earth, Mother of all Life. Finally, Loki is the last villain standing and the Avengers, having caught on to his scheme, pursue the evil god. Odin himself made such a claim that Asgard was a universe in itself, in the past. I mean depending on how you powerscale anyone* in marvel does. Only this time without the Loom. Many heroes are caught off guard and only survive by the skin of their teeth. During Dan Jurgens run on Thor, Thanos is questing after the Chalice of Tears and the Map Of All-Ending to destroy the universe. @princesscadenza: Did Galactus and Franklin straight up tank the birth and death of the multiverse or was there something else that allowed them to see that? But again, all of that has been more than debunked. They are part of the universe and don't exist apart from it. Rune King Thor is not multiversal. great thread so far hopefully this whould clear misconceptions about this version of thor, as for discord no its arguably way better than the entirety of debating forums if you actually look for good servers (obviously not ones that focuses on arguing), >Surtur hesitates to reforge Mjolnir because he thinks Thor's gonna murder him with it. They would've simply obliterated RK Thor out of existence. Uur Killi Bir nemi Kalmaz lgn Serkan Tansan Sen De Seversin (llegal Hayatlar Film Mzii) aatay Akman Unuttum Yalnzl Arman322 Fenasn Mustafa Ceceli & Beng Zaman Ece Mumay Yeniden Kavuacaz #genshinimpact Because they can't provide fact, BUT HE LOOKS LIKE HE MERGED WITH COSMOS !!!! And its importance was greatly exaggerated. In Thor #439, Masterson Thor and Dargo Ktor, both of them weaker than Thor, clashed so hard they shook infinitely more than an infinite number of universes (obviously half of infinity is still infinity). While Captain America and the Avengers end up battling the X-Men on Earth, Cap has sent a team of heroes, including Thor, Beast, War Machine, Ms. Marvel, and a couple others, to try and fight the Phoenix off in space. Grabbing Durok, Silver Surfer used his cosmic abilities to travel far into the future. And then we already know the story. Mjolnir can control the weather on a global (or sometimes universal) scale, rain down lighting, create portals, fly at faster-than-light speeds, discharge massive energy attacks, and lets Thor time travel whenever he wants. Only out of context statements or implications that they don't understand themselves and wank the characters anyway, Pretty good debunk but werent the realms simply just retconed to being universes(atleast the space they inhabit). Also congrats on cherrypicking an outdated map from nearly 3 decades ago (is that from the World Engine arc?) Sure Jan. there's no context of the death of a multiverse though.. https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11139/111396494/7759610-1651965987-main-qimg-3785c2b3b278faef2178c00ad736d635.jpg. Although the series was limited and fans didnt get to see much of Thor-El, everyone knows combining the might of a Kryptonian and the powers of the gods creates a force to be reckoned with. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. During one of his many cosmic adventures, Silver Surfer was forced to release massive amounts of cosmic energy. Also referred by as the World Tree, it maintains the appearance of an actual gigantic tree, but is in fact the cosmic pillar that guides time, destiny, and nature for not only Asgard, but all the Nine Realms. Galactus is on par with some of the most powerful beings in the known universe, tricking him with illusion was no small feat. Then as He looked into the great void he said Let there be light and there was light. You're all over MY thread. Their battle continues into Journey Into Mystery #119, and Thor is becoming more and more desperate. After some fighting and debate on who should wield the hammer, Odin designed a new one for Beta Ray Bill and named it Stormbreaker. Thor does retrieve it, but it doesnt take long for Odin and Asgard to realize that another wants it: Galactus. TL;DR: RKT is not even universal let alone multiversal, don't let the wank mislead you. He said without Mjolnir Thor can't destroy a City or something. In a fight where Thor uses every ounce of power, he performs such feats as beating Mangog by ramming Mjolnir down the monsters throat and unleashing a massive energy blast, withstanding a blast from Thanos capable of destroying a planet, and then going on to defeat the Mad Titan himself. Its about time RKT getting a debunking thread. When it landed on Earth, the entity was just a formless mass of energy. And has already begun the initial process to begin destroying it. But again, all of that has been more than debunked. The son of Zeus, Hercules is a demigod and practically the equal to the God of Thunder. And it's dying because the Black Winter has already entered Universe 616. Wrapping around the Earth twice, the creature is nearly 900 miles wide. Bill pleads to Sif to recruit more help and she gathers the Infinity Watch, made up of Drax the Destoyer, herself, and a couple other cosmic heroes, to stop Thor. The attack is so phenomenal that Exitr, the most power Celestial, is staggered. Even with all of that power, he still pales in comparison to the power of the Surfer. Dr. Eric Solvang also explains to Tony Stark what . No. He is way more powerful than Galactus. The thunder god immediately throws his hammer at the creature, but its merely a projection. Caused a Planet's Life to Evolve in Seconds. The weird things is that the Mind Valkyrie is actually the manifestation of Thors subconscious given form, which makes things peculiar as Thor kisses the Mind Valkyrie later on. As Tyrs forces battle Odin and the rest of Asgard, its up to Thor to content with one of the largest creatures in the entire universe. Shortly thereafter, the aliens attack and chaos ensues as Asgards finest battle the Super-Skrulls. In the meantime, Spider-Man does his part, constructing some makeshift support columns, which then allows Thor to let go of the skyscraper. This is the argument I seen for Ppl scaling RKT to boundless. One of those such beings is none other than Silver Surfer's former master, Galactus. He destroyed Yggdrasil, the World Tree. After Thor was no longer deemed worthy to wield his hammer, Mjolnir, he needed a successor. They were Celestials. Volstagg found himself worthy of this Mjolnir and gained the powers of Thor, becoming the War Thor. Made completely invulnerable, the Destroyer became known as being capable of destroying anything, gods included. And from that Chaos came to be a single spark of light and Order. Thus we arrive at a simple but factual conclusion RK Thor never had universal power less alone multiversal. Many Thor variants diverge only slightly from the Earth-616 version, while others are radically different like Throg. every site has BS tbh, be it CV, Quora, Spacebattles, Instagram, Youtube etc. They are simply ten worlds. The attack is so phenomenal that Exitr, the most power Celestial, is staggered. And wow, did someone really say that? So if he wanted to free himself and Asgard from the cycle, he needed to destroy the Loom. But honestly i don't care. So here are RK Thor feats: Feat #1. And God saw that the light was good. I always thought it was just Galan being reborn from the big bang. As the battle intensifies, Thor orders Asgard itself to fall on the Skrull, while he and Bill are underneath. Let me say this right off the bat, No. The sheer weight of the Serpent is uncertain, but at the very least, its not in the billions of tons, rather its weight is in the trillions of tons. Or has had Thor Force for even longer. Odin himself made such a claim that Asgard was a universe in itself, in the past. Then, with the cosmic behemoth at his weakest, the Surfer defeated him with a powerful concentrated blast of cosmic power. Because those five planets have special energies to them, that if Galactus had consumed them he would've become far more powerful. What had been written was beyond his power to change.
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